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	<title>Comments on: Attractional, missional, exponential and many more &quot;al&quot; words</title>
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		<title>By: enthroned98</title>
		<link>http://www.digdoug.org/2009/04/29/attractional-missional-exponential-and-many-more-al-words/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the core idea that our youth leaders honestly believed:

&quot;If we can reach the popular kids like star quarterback or a cheerleader, than we would have big numbers.&quot;

Unfortunately one of the leaders who felt this way was also an elder.

I can&#039;t really describe my frustration at that whole mindset.  Not that I didn&#039;t want to reach quarterbacks, but talk about your &quot;attractional&quot; mindset.

Good post Doug.

tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the core idea that our youth leaders honestly believed:</p>
<p>&#8220;If we can reach the popular kids like star quarterback or a cheerleader, than we would have big numbers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately one of the leaders who felt this way was also an elder.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really describe my frustration at that whole mindset.  Not that I didn&#8217;t want to reach quarterbacks, but talk about your &#8220;attractional&#8221; mindset.</p>
<p>Good post Doug.</p>
<p>tim</p>
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		<title>By: douggamble</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Greg and Kevin.

Greg that is so helpful and fascinating.  I love to hear how it is actually working in the real world because so much I hear is philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg and Kevin.</p>
<p>Greg that is so helpful and fascinating.  I love to hear how it is actually working in the real world because so much I hear is philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug - I am always wrestling with that question.  Primarily because we avoided the whole: &#039;attractional&#039; all about Sunday when we launched...and we&#039;re still that way.

Here&#039;s where we are at right now: we have gone simple.  Really simple.  We don&#039;t have the lights &amp; the flash of a traditionally EXTRACTIONAL church...but we do it well.  Sunday is really a Gathering &amp; we&#039;re highly participatory.

We have gone with the mindset of if we want to reproduce - we have to make it easily reproducible &amp; highly mobile.  We want our people to be able to start a Gathering wherever is natural for them (bars, restaurants, the YMCA, etc) So where we put most of emphasis is equipping people to live missionally - which means for me: lots of coffee &amp; texting.  Instead of hiring a worship guy - I hired a community pastor.  Instead of throwing a bunch of money @ advertising (which we may end up regretting) - we have underwritten neighborhood parties that our people throw where they live.

As a pastor - I have approached this thing the Eugene Peterson way from Contemplative Pastor.  It&#039;s slower.  It&#039;s not as sexy.  And it&#039;s going to scare away a good chunk of churched folks (believe me - I know that well)...but what we have found is that this way is connecting &amp; our people are becoming their neighborhood chaplins.

Wow that was long - but that&#039;s where I am in on this wrestling match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8211; I am always wrestling with that question.  Primarily because we avoided the whole: &#8216;attractional&#8217; all about Sunday when we launched&#8230;and we&#8217;re still that way.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where we are at right now: we have gone simple.  Really simple.  We don&#8217;t have the lights &amp; the flash of a traditionally EXTRACTIONAL church&#8230;but we do it well.  Sunday is really a Gathering &amp; we&#8217;re highly participatory.</p>
<p>We have gone with the mindset of if we want to reproduce &#8211; we have to make it easily reproducible &amp; highly mobile.  We want our people to be able to start a Gathering wherever is natural for them (bars, restaurants, the YMCA, etc) So where we put most of emphasis is equipping people to live missionally &#8211; which means for me: lots of coffee &amp; texting.  Instead of hiring a worship guy &#8211; I hired a community pastor.  Instead of throwing a bunch of money @ advertising (which we may end up regretting) &#8211; we have underwritten neighborhood parties that our people throw where they live.</p>
<p>As a pastor &#8211; I have approached this thing the Eugene Peterson way from Contemplative Pastor.  It&#8217;s slower.  It&#8217;s not as sexy.  And it&#8217;s going to scare away a good chunk of churched folks (believe me &#8211; I know that well)&#8230;but what we have found is that this way is connecting &amp; our people are becoming their neighborhood chaplins.</p>
<p>Wow that was long &#8211; but that&#8217;s where I am in on this wrestling match.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.digdoug.org/2009/04/29/attractional-missional-exponential-and-many-more-al-words/comment-page-1/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the question that has been on my mind as soon as I got wind of the missional ideas-- is it possible to be a missional worship pastor, when so much of a WP&#039;s time and effort goes into making the gatherings attractive and excellent? Or I guess the bigger question, how does the missional lifestyle play out in other staff/leadership roles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the question that has been on my mind as soon as I got wind of the missional ideas&#8211; is it possible to be a missional worship pastor, when so much of a WP&#8217;s time and effort goes into making the gatherings attractive and excellent? Or I guess the bigger question, how does the missional lifestyle play out in other staff/leadership roles?</p>
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